This Sunday, November 17th

1 PM at Baron Brandubh and Baroness Hilda’s house
(address in the Dark Pages or text or PM me)

An Exploration of Meatballs and Sauces


I had a request to show how to make meatballs, so I will bring beef, spices, utensils, and doodads to do so, and will also bring a mundane recipe and a medieval recipe if I can find one.

If you like food, come and join us! Eating is period, so we are doing a medieval thing. Bring ingredients, favorite or new recipes, any other stuff if you want to, and we will see what we can make of all the stuff.

We did this Mystery Cooking day once before and it was VERY yummy!

Pssst. You. Yes, you. I see you there, thinking you’ll sit at home on Sunday. Instead, come to this perfect small fun gathering so you can get to know a few of the folks in our fine Barony.

See you Sunday!
Elss Augsburg


Join or check out the Food Guild FB Group

Updated Schedule for Equestrian Practice/Champs

Updated Schedule for Saturday:

Doors open Saturday 10 AM
11:30 AM Safe the Holidays – Equestrian challenge on a trail through a forest obstacle course.
1 PM BMDL Equestrian Championship Starting – M’Lord Nohaaj as the current BMDL Equestrian Champion will host this activity this year.
2 PM Hobby Horse obstacle course – open to all ages Followed by head to head race on bouncy horses – open to all ages
3:30 PM Foam Joust – this will be depending on footing for horses.

Don’t forget this is a potluck feast. Feel free to bring food to share, feast gear, plus chairs as needed. Take a moment to visit the potluck list and add what you are bringing —

Note: This is an outdoor activity. Please wear shoes made for wet grounds and dress appropriately. It looks like, the weather will be on our side. The place is pet friendly, but dogs have to remain on the leash. This is an equestrian practice, so please make sure you stop at the barn and sign the equestrian waver!

Seneschal’s Spotlight: Business Meetings

I wanted to cast a spotlight on our Business Meetings because there are some misconceptions as to their purpose and who is “allowed” to attend. In order to address some of this, I had started including the following paragraph at the end of the information about the next Business Meeting:

The Officers of the Debatable Lands are elected by the membership and is made up of members of the populace, just like you. The Officers are responsible for ensuring that the policies of the Kingdom and Barony are followed and are accountable to the populace of the Debatable Lands. The Business meeting is open to everyone in the Barony and attendance by the populace is encouraged. Have a thought you’d like to share with the Officers? Email

This is absolutely true. Everyone is invited to attend Business Meetings and everyone is encouraged to do so. Attending gives you the opportunity to understand more about the non-profit business side of the organization and an opportunity for the populace to hold us accountable as Officers.

To give you an idea of what happens at an Officer’s Meeting, here is an annotated version of the general Agenda that we follow for each meeting:

Meeting opens at 8:00 p.m
The Seneschal announces that we are going to get started. This is done as close to 8:00 p.m. as possible. Prior to the Seneschal starting the meeting, they will have already checked off who is in attendance and listed who else is attending the meeting. This is to create a record of which officers have attended, if there are any proxies (which I will explain in a moment), who those proxies are, and to ensure that the record of who attended the meeting is as accurate as possible.

Proxies are someone that is representing the officer for the purpose of the meeting. They would also carry the vote of that officer and cast it appropriately for any known business.

This is a copy of the attendance record for a recent Business Meeting. As you can see, we have run remote sessions in the past, but we have not done that for a while. Look for an announcement about that coming up soon.

Approve Minutes
The Officers of the Barony are responsible for reading the minutes of the previous meeting prior to the next meeting. The minutes are made available prior to the following meeting, at least three days before the meeting. They are posted again the day of the meeting. Anyone attending the Business Meeting should also take the time to review the minutes. This will help give you a sense of context to some of the discussion and will also allow you the ability to ask any specific questions that you may have about what was done in the previous meeting.

Officer’s Reports
Each officer of the Barony then gives a report that is recorded into the minutes. Often when an officer is unable to attend, they will send a pre-written report that is then either read into the minutes or included in the minutes as a cut/paste of what was sent by the officer. This is where we talk about what we’re doing, what plans are coming up, events that have just happened or may be coming up. Anything that pertains to the officer’s area of responsibility.

What about Guilds?
Guilds are defined in Corpora as:
E. Unofficial Entities
In many kingdoms, there are groups in which many people participate but which are not formally recognized by the Society. These can range from highly structured guilds to loosely associated camping groups. Entities that fall into this category can have many names, including but not limited to households, guilds, ships, and clans. Although these entities are not recognized by the Society in any formal way, some kingdoms have awards that can be given to these groups. Because they are not official Society groups, unofficial entities cannot sponsor Society events.

This does not mean that guilds are not important, because they are. This means that guilds are free to structure themselves in any way and are free to engage the populace in whatever way that they believe best serves the populace. It also means that guilds can dissolve or create themselves as needed without paperwork or any official intervention. People who are not members of a guild are in no way restricted from doing any art or science for which there may or may not be a guild for. It’s a learning opportunity like so many things in the SCA. We encourage guilds to report at the Business Meeting, but they must contact the Seneschal prior to the meeting to be placed on the Agenda.

What about Baronial Positions?
These positions include Gold Key, Iron Key, Steward, Signet, Dark Pages Editor, Historian, and Minister of Youth. These are also unofficial positions, some of whom report into the Exchequer because they have Baronial property that must be accounted for and reported on yearly. We also encourage Baronial Positions to report at Business Meeting, but also must contact the Seneschal prior to the meeting to be placed on the Agenda

After Officer’s Reports a number of things may be on the Agenda:
Reports from Guilds and/or Positions
Event Reports – Income generated (or not generated) by any events held since the last Business Meeting. Given by the Exchequer.

Letters of Intent – We choose our Officers by vote. The way to get on the ballot is to send in a letter of intent to the Office you wish to volunteer for, copying the Seneschal. The Seneschal’s office requires a letter to the Seneschal with a copy sent to the Baronage. ANYONE may vote in an election for any position as long as an officer does not call for an Officers Only vote.

Event Bids – Any event bids that you have to bring before the Officers. It is preferred to have event bids at least two weeks prior to the Business meeting so everyone has time to review it and include a link to it in the published agenda. Only members of the Financial committee may vote on the final approval of funding for any event.

Budget Meeting – We hold our annual budget meeting in April of each year and everyone is invited to come and discuss how we are planning to spend money in the barony in the upcoming year. This is also a great place to discuss what kind of fundraisers can be done for the Barony prior to clearing it with the Kingdom Exchequer. Only members of the Financial committee may vote on the final passage (or not) of the budget. BUT everyone may put in a funding request and may engage in the discussion about how Baronial funds are to be spent to ensure that their opinions are heard.

How to know what to vote on?
Our Baronial Policy states:
Unless otherwise stated, decisions of the officers are by consensus of the people attending a scheduled officers meeting at which a majority of the Officers are present. An individual may cast only one vote. Officers may be represented by proxy.  Only the members of the Financial Committee may vote on financial decisions.  Any Officer may call for an Officer Only vote, in which case each Office gets one vote, with a simple majority of the votes cast deciding the issue.

Close Meeting
To close the meeting, someone must move that we vote on closing the meeting, then second it. Then a vote of simple majority is taken and the meeting is adjourned if the majority agrees to it.

So, while this is very long and digs a lot into how we as an organization structure things down to the Baronial level, I hope that I have answered most questions that people may have about attending the Business Meeting. It is a completely open meeting that anyone may attend and you are encouraged to participate in this part of the organization just as you are welcome to participate in any other aspect of the organization.

If you have any questions, or need more information, please contact me, Odriana vander Brugghe at seneschal (at) debatablelands (dot) org.

BMDL Equestrian Champs

Oh great populace of our beautiful Barony of Debatable Lands, it is our pleasure to inform you of a gathering with friends and food on Saturday, November 16th 2019 on Nohaaj and Gesa’s property at 46 Caitlin Dr, West Deer PA. This is not an official event, but a celebration of the equestrian community and the Barony.

m’Lord Nohaaj and THL Gesa Van Wellenstein acquired some land which they offer for a fun filled day. Doors will open at 10 AM. BMDL’s Equestrian Championship will be starting at 1 PM. Other activities will be posted at a later time.

We are hoping to have volunteers who will organize marshal activities, A & S, and possible barding. We are looking forward offering an opportunity to practice your skills for Archery, Throwing Weapons, Heavy fighting and other outdoor activities if so desired. The property offers different open areas and fields which can be utilized for archery/throwing weapons. There are woods which are suitable for fighting scenarios.

The food will be pot luck (link to Pot Luck sign-up — style, with possibly baking or cooking challenges, please bring your own feast gear and seating arrangements (table/chairs). If the beverage guild would like to organize a tasting that would be very welcomed. Our site is wet. We are still looking for volunteers for activities and organizing the potluck drive. If you would like to volunteer, please contact THL Gesa at gwellenstein (at)

Hope to see you there!!

For those of you on Facebook, here is the event link:

Woodworking in November

Last month, we discussed tools and woodworking at our Thursday meeting. Then, at our shop day, we practiced cutting dovetail joints by hand.

Our next shop day is Sunday, November 17th, from 10am to 2pm in Ishiyama’s shop. This shop day will be our long-awaited sharpening workshop. Learn to sharpen your chisels and knives by hand with a stone for better results on whatever materials you work. We’ll discuss jigs, papers, grinders, polishers, and strops; and do some “before and after” tests.

Our next planning meeting is on Thursday, November 21st, from 7pm to 9pm at the Oakland Panera. We’ll make some plans for our December shop day, as well as discuss what tools are on our “want” lists for the holidays. Coal is just a one element away from being high carbon steel!

Sunday Site Clean Up

Tomorrow, Nov 10th, is site clean up. Bring gloves, rakes, and anything else you think will be of use including yourself.

Clean up starts at 9am. Hope to see you there. Once we’re all cleaned up we’ll have archery practice.

Master Urho will be bringing a hot soup to share on the cold morning, and other refreshments will also be provided. Join us for the great cleansing.

Fencing at Broken Plow this Sunday 11/10

Just as a reminder this Sunday’s fencing practice is once again a crossover muster at Broken Plow.

The address is:

201 Crawford Run Rd
Creighton, PA 15030

We will start at 2 PM and will go until everyone is tired.

Loaner gear for fencing and cut and thrust is available.

Next week we will return to Washington Blvd as usual, weather permitting.